Definitely a promising idea. So far so good.
Thank you!
Thank you!
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Re: 6 point divisor software
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Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
I believe blueprint has winning method and he already shared and so is the answer..
Thanks blueprint.. Let everyone work and find answers for themselves. Ingredients are provided...I beleive
After all the work...we don't want casinos to change rules or totally remove roulette forever
MoneyT is worried about this happening.....i Guess
As far I know about roulette...answers are in many threads...Vaddi, Turbo, Out of Box, Priyanka, dykseclic, PHP, RRBB
Request for Everyone: Don't post straight answer on open forum
Thanks blueprint.. Let everyone work and find answers for themselves. Ingredients are provided...I beleive
After all the work...we don't want casinos to change rules or totally remove roulette forever
MoneyT is worried about this happening.....i Guess
As far I know about roulette...answers are in many threads...Vaddi, Turbo, Out of Box, Priyanka, dykseclic, PHP, RRBB
Request for Everyone: Don't post straight answer on open forum
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Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
How do you handle the zero when it appears? Is it part of the stream or ignored? Does the number in position 4 drop to 5 if the zero appears?
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Re: Stragedy
The RRS systems are a joke. Much like the self leveling wheels. They can also create bias. They're a gimmick.
The reason is that dealers wave off no more bets so late in most casinos that the subtle changes in the rotor speed are insignificant. When the changes are significant enough, then you can perceive the slowing and simply adjust for it the moment that you see it if you're betting late.
The reason is that dealers wave off no more bets so late in most casinos that the subtle changes in the rotor speed are insignificant. When the changes are significant enough, then you can perceive the slowing and simply adjust for it the moment that you see it if you're betting late.
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Re: Tomla
I never spoke with him but I've read his posts over the years many times.
I would like to remember him by this method which he once shared with the forum.
There are not many methods which only require 4 units of bankroll!
Thanks to Tomla021 (rip) for sharing this 4 step bet method.
We start with 4 units and we use them to win 4 more units. It’s a very clever positioning of the won units that makes this a strong method. Explanation follows.
Here’s our chart. It has 4 patterns. Memorize it. It’s easy to do.
1 1 1 1 = 4 units
1 2 1 1 = 5 units
1 1 2 2 = 6 units
1 1 2 3 = 7 units
Start with 4 units 1 1 1 1
Bet the 1st unit. If it wins, put it on the 2nd unit like this 1 2 1 1.
Bet the 1st unit. If it wins, put it on the 4th unit and move 1 unit from the 2nd position to the 3rd position like this 1 1 2 2.
Bet the 1st unit. If it wins, put it on the 4th position like this 1 1 2 3.
Bet the 1st unit. If it wins, we have won 4 units. Goal accomplished.
But what if we don’t win 4 times in a row?
We always bet the leftmost position and we always try to re-create the above positions.
We bet the 1st unit and if we lose, we bet the 2nd unit.
If we win on the 2nd unit we replace the 1st lost unit and we have 1 1 1 1 again. Start over.
If we win the 1st bet we will have 1 2 1 1. If we lose the next bet we will have X 2 1 1.
The leftmost number is 2 which we bet. If we win, we will have 6 units. We look at our chart and see what pattern is made up of 6 units. It’s 1 1 2 2. That’s our new pattern and we now bet the leftmost position, the 1st position or 1 unit.
Note: We only recreate our chart after a win. Everything stays in place after a loss.
If we win 2 times and then lose 2 times we will have X X 2 2. Since we just lost we don’t re-arrange the units so our next bet is 2. A win here and we are re-arrange our chart to 1 1 2 2.
If we lose 3 times we will havel X X X 2. We bet the 2 and if we win we will have 4 units and anytime we have 4 units after a win, we re-create the 4 units pattern, 1 1 1 1.
If we have the 1 1 2 3 pattern and we lose 3 times in a row we will have X X X 3 so we bet 3. If we win we will have 6 units so we re-create the 6 units pattern, 1 1 2 2 and bet the 1st 1 next.
As you can see, the way we move the units around maximizes our chances of staying alive until we can win our 4 units.
I would like to remember him by this method which he once shared with the forum.
There are not many methods which only require 4 units of bankroll!
Thanks to Tomla021 (rip) for sharing this 4 step bet method.
We start with 4 units and we use them to win 4 more units. It’s a very clever positioning of the won units that makes this a strong method. Explanation follows.
Here’s our chart. It has 4 patterns. Memorize it. It’s easy to do.
1 1 1 1 = 4 units
1 2 1 1 = 5 units
1 1 2 2 = 6 units
1 1 2 3 = 7 units
Start with 4 units 1 1 1 1
Bet the 1st unit. If it wins, put it on the 2nd unit like this 1 2 1 1.
Bet the 1st unit. If it wins, put it on the 4th unit and move 1 unit from the 2nd position to the 3rd position like this 1 1 2 2.
Bet the 1st unit. If it wins, put it on the 4th position like this 1 1 2 3.
Bet the 1st unit. If it wins, we have won 4 units. Goal accomplished.
But what if we don’t win 4 times in a row?
We always bet the leftmost position and we always try to re-create the above positions.
We bet the 1st unit and if we lose, we bet the 2nd unit.
If we win on the 2nd unit we replace the 1st lost unit and we have 1 1 1 1 again. Start over.
If we win the 1st bet we will have 1 2 1 1. If we lose the next bet we will have X 2 1 1.
The leftmost number is 2 which we bet. If we win, we will have 6 units. We look at our chart and see what pattern is made up of 6 units. It’s 1 1 2 2. That’s our new pattern and we now bet the leftmost position, the 1st position or 1 unit.
Note: We only recreate our chart after a win. Everything stays in place after a loss.
If we win 2 times and then lose 2 times we will have X X 2 2. Since we just lost we don’t re-arrange the units so our next bet is 2. A win here and we are re-arrange our chart to 1 1 2 2.
If we lose 3 times we will havel X X X 2. We bet the 2 and if we win we will have 4 units and anytime we have 4 units after a win, we re-create the 4 units pattern, 1 1 1 1.
If we have the 1 1 2 3 pattern and we lose 3 times in a row we will have X X X 3 so we bet 3. If we win we will have 6 units so we re-create the 6 units pattern, 1 1 2 2 and bet the 1st 1 next.
As you can see, the way we move the units around maximizes our chances of staying alive until we can win our 4 units.
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Re: Stragedy
The self-leveling technology is a "good try". They would be good if wheels were physically perfect, but they're not. So they can be better for APs. See below:
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They often make wheels easier to beat. They sound high-tech and great for casinos because they automatically level wheels to reduce "dominant diamonds". This is supposed to make spins less predictable. But the reality is different.
Dominant diamonds are caused by ball track deformations as much as tilt. If a dominant diamond occurs due to ball track deformations, you could observe every spin and carefully adjust the wheel to even out the spread of diamond hits (like an auto leveling system). This attempts to compensate for ball track deformations, which actually puts the wheel on an artificial tilt rather than leveling it.
The effect is that when the ball falls in certain regions, the bounce is more predictable. This has virtually the same effect as a dominant diamond, except the casino is lured into believing their level wheel is less predictable.
The below images explain further for two drop-points, but the effect applies to all drop points. Basically level or not, if the ball track has imperfections (which they almost always do), the ball will fall in a slightly different way, and affect the predictability of the bounce (F = where the ball falls, and B = where the ball bounces/ Blue is one fall point, and yellow is the other). Notice how the scatter is tighter and more predictable for blue. See below:
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Some of the differences in ball fall may be the part of the diamond hit, the speed at which the ball falls, and the trajectory of the ball when it hits the rotor.
Another effect of trying to correct a wheel with deformed ball track is, in particularly on slow rotors, you can estimate rotor orientation at the end of the spin and exploit bias. The attempted correction for ball fall points makes the rotor "unlevel". And if you know rotor orientation at a critical time in the spin, you've got a good chance of an edge because the ball will favor certain regions. This is because the ball will naturally more likely come to rest in the lower part of the rotor. See below:
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They often make wheels easier to beat. They sound high-tech and great for casinos because they automatically level wheels to reduce "dominant diamonds". This is supposed to make spins less predictable. But the reality is different.
Dominant diamonds are caused by ball track deformations as much as tilt. If a dominant diamond occurs due to ball track deformations, you could observe every spin and carefully adjust the wheel to even out the spread of diamond hits (like an auto leveling system). This attempts to compensate for ball track deformations, which actually puts the wheel on an artificial tilt rather than leveling it.
The effect is that when the ball falls in certain regions, the bounce is more predictable. This has virtually the same effect as a dominant diamond, except the casino is lured into believing their level wheel is less predictable.
The below images explain further for two drop-points, but the effect applies to all drop points. Basically level or not, if the ball track has imperfections (which they almost always do), the ball will fall in a slightly different way, and affect the predictability of the bounce (F = where the ball falls, and B = where the ball bounces/ Blue is one fall point, and yellow is the other). Notice how the scatter is tighter and more predictable for blue. See below:
Some of the differences in ball fall may be the part of the diamond hit, the speed at which the ball falls, and the trajectory of the ball when it hits the rotor.
Another effect of trying to correct a wheel with deformed ball track is, in particularly on slow rotors, you can estimate rotor orientation at the end of the spin and exploit bias. The attempted correction for ball fall points makes the rotor "unlevel". And if you know rotor orientation at a critical time in the spin, you've got a good chance of an edge because the ball will favor certain regions. This is because the ball will naturally more likely come to rest in the lower part of the rotor. See below:
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Re: $100,000 Holy Grail Roulette System Challenge
I'm not selling anything, nor do I intend to. I've no vested interest in what Steve sells or what Turbo and the other maths system people sell. But I can tell you Steve is 100% right.
Systems and the order of the wheel are like religion for some so unless you prove it for yourself you aren't going to be convinced. So simulate your system.
Run it over 1000, 10,000, 100,000 and a million spins. Do it multiple times. Computing power is cheap today. If you can't do it yourself, then learn to programme, or pay someone to do it for you. You will eventually see the trend and the light.
Don't rely on other people's simulations and the graphs they post because I guarantee they are very selective with the truth. You won't get an accurate picture. Be in control of your own simulation.
Systems and the order of the wheel are like religion for some so unless you prove it for yourself you aren't going to be convinced. So simulate your system.
Run it over 1000, 10,000, 100,000 and a million spins. Do it multiple times. Computing power is cheap today. If you can't do it yourself, then learn to programme, or pay someone to do it for you. You will eventually see the trend and the light.
Don't rely on other people's simulations and the graphs they post because I guarantee they are very selective with the truth. You won't get an accurate picture. Be in control of your own simulation.
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Re: Done with systems.
Overlapping bets dont at all matter in the long term. It's just annoying when one of the smaller bets win.
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Re: $100,000 Holy Grail Roulette System Challenge
It's only fear what you have! You show it to me when you want to discredit everyone who knows how to play and win.
You think you are the best and the only one, you believe God and you really know that you are not.
When I have the program ready I will leave you quiet with 2 million balls and then you will say another excuse and you will continue with your comments.
You have all the ballots to be a worker of the casinos, every time I have it more clear! You show that you are helping people trying to make them see that we are all losers and fools, and you are always trying to tell everyone that we can not win and give 100k to anyone who can destroy the challenge, that only a casino would do, no person normal I would!
Do not think you're the only one who can identify who is who and manipulate everything, there are many very good hackers that could identify even what shoes you have right now, do not think you're the best.
I am working with a great hacker right now and we have already identified what the casinos do with the algorithms and it can be done manually, but I want to leave you quiet with a good program and destroy 2m of balls so you can see that you are not the best and that you are not honest either saying what you do, or for whom you work.
We all know that this type of forum is only to identify people of great level to identify how they play and remedy what they do, that's why all they know how to win disappear, they are not stupid.
Let's not be naive gentlemen, these forums are not to help or study, but to identify ways of gambling risk for the casino, let's be a little smart.
Or do you think that casinos are not aware of these forums? Hahaha, do not make me laugh.
Notice and advised not to give any real win information in these forums, the next day will no longer work. It happened years ago in a forum! They are warned!
They can keep saying that I am a Scammer and that I do not know what I'm saying and I do not know what he said!
If they want a Council, do they want to win at roulette? Study the algorithms, study what Dyksexlic really talks about and you will realize that if you can win at roulette with the inevitable failures that algorithms have, nothing is perfect, nor can algorithms destroy the laws of nature! Maths!!
Whoever says otherwise has no idea of the laws of nature! Keep thinking that you know everything and keep thinking that everything Steve says is correct and that is God and makes and desace the universe with two fingers!
You think you are the best and the only one, you believe God and you really know that you are not.
When I have the program ready I will leave you quiet with 2 million balls and then you will say another excuse and you will continue with your comments.
You have all the ballots to be a worker of the casinos, every time I have it more clear! You show that you are helping people trying to make them see that we are all losers and fools, and you are always trying to tell everyone that we can not win and give 100k to anyone who can destroy the challenge, that only a casino would do, no person normal I would!
Do not think you're the only one who can identify who is who and manipulate everything, there are many very good hackers that could identify even what shoes you have right now, do not think you're the best.
I am working with a great hacker right now and we have already identified what the casinos do with the algorithms and it can be done manually, but I want to leave you quiet with a good program and destroy 2m of balls so you can see that you are not the best and that you are not honest either saying what you do, or for whom you work.
We all know that this type of forum is only to identify people of great level to identify how they play and remedy what they do, that's why all they know how to win disappear, they are not stupid.
Let's not be naive gentlemen, these forums are not to help or study, but to identify ways of gambling risk for the casino, let's be a little smart.
Or do you think that casinos are not aware of these forums? Hahaha, do not make me laugh.
Notice and advised not to give any real win information in these forums, the next day will no longer work. It happened years ago in a forum! They are warned!
They can keep saying that I am a Scammer and that I do not know what I'm saying and I do not know what he said!
If they want a Council, do they want to win at roulette? Study the algorithms, study what Dyksexlic really talks about and you will realize that if you can win at roulette with the inevitable failures that algorithms have, nothing is perfect, nor can algorithms destroy the laws of nature! Maths!!
Whoever says otherwise has no idea of the laws of nature! Keep thinking that you know everything and keep thinking that everything Steve says is correct and that is God and makes and desace the universe with two fingers!
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Re: $100,000 Holy Grail Roulette System Challenge
It's only fear what you have!
It's not just me who says certain things about math and reality. It's every expert in math, statistics, gaming, engineering, physics etc. We are all afraid of passion's PM system selling.
You think you are the best and the only one, you believe God and you really know that you are not.
It is possible I know roulette better than anyone. After all I've been doing it 20+ years almost every day, and have done extensive work in this field. But am I the only one who understands AP or at least the basics? No. There are countless people.
Passion, I'm not convinced you even completed high school. You probably didnt.
When I have the program ready I will leave you quiet with 2 million balls and then you will say another excuse and you will continue with your comments.
So you havent even tested yet? When you do, and if your system works, good for you - go make money.
You show that you are helping people trying to make them see that we are all losers and fools, and you are always trying to tell everyone that we can not win
Should I lie and tell everyone a proven losing approach works?
Should I lie and tell everyone the odds and payout discrepancy is irrelevant.
Am I lying when I say you can only beat roulette by increasing accuracy of predictions?
there are many very good hackers that could identify even what shoes you have right now, do not think you're the best.
Im not wearing shoes.
I am working with a great hacker right now and we have already identified what the casinos do with the algorithms and it can be done manually, but I want to leave you quiet with a good program and destroy 2m of balls so you can see that you are not the best and that you are not honest either saying what you do, or for whom you work.
Then just go and make your money and stop trying to sell to people secretly via PM. Nobody here supported or believed you.
We all know that this type of forum is only to identify people of great level to identify how they play and remedy what they do, that's why all they know how to win disappear, they are not stupid.
Let's not be naive gentlemen, these forums are not to help or study, but to identify ways of gambling risk for the casino, let's be a little smart.
People share what they want. That's what forums are for. It's not a casino conspiracy to discover your winning systems.
Or do you think that casinos are not aware of these forums? Hahaha, do not make me laugh.
Casinos mostly laugh at the systems on forums. The only material they take seriously pertains to AP, or specifically strategies that actually change odds.
They can keep saying that I am a Scammer and that I do not know what I'm saying and I do not know what he said!
They will keep thinking you're a scammer, for as long as you keep telling people you're not selling anything, while trying to scam people via PM.
do they want to win at roulette? Study the algorithms, study what Dyksexlic really talks about
Many educated and experienced people already have. And Dyksexlic's theories were terrible and typical fallacy.
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Re: $100,000 Holy Grail Roulette System Challenge
And Passion, you're not the only person who attempted to scam people here, repeatedly, then attacked me because they were restricted from the forum.
Why should you care so much if you have the HG? Why are you wasting time telling everyone here how great you are, and how full of shit I am?
Why did you tell everyone you weren't selling anything, then secretly contacted members via PM to try and sell to them? You lied. There is no doubt.
You're an obvious scammer, and now upset you were rightfully stopped by the admin.
I'm not wasting more time with you. Take your scam elsewhere.
Why should you care so much if you have the HG? Why are you wasting time telling everyone here how great you are, and how full of shit I am?
Why did you tell everyone you weren't selling anything, then secretly contacted members via PM to try and sell to them? You lied. There is no doubt.
You're an obvious scammer, and now upset you were rightfully stopped by the admin.
I'm not wasting more time with you. Take your scam elsewhere.
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Re: immersive Roulette
You can build on dealer signature. There's a lot more you can add.
In any case, begin with scatter analysis. Use the free tool at the top of http://roulettephysics.com/jaa/index.php/jump which gives a rating.
If scatter is bad, move on. Scatter can only be improved by targeting ball-fall areas (only possible with computers) or segregating to rotor speeds.
Rotor speed segregation is good for dealer signature because you may get bad scatter with fast rotor, and good scatter with slow rotor. Every rotor tends to have a "sweet speed range" in which scatter is most predictable.
In any case, begin with scatter analysis. Use the free tool at the top of http://roulettephysics.com/jaa/index.php/jump which gives a rating.
If scatter is bad, move on. Scatter can only be improved by targeting ball-fall areas (only possible with computers) or segregating to rotor speeds.
Rotor speed segregation is good for dealer signature because you may get bad scatter with fast rotor, and good scatter with slow rotor. Every rotor tends to have a "sweet speed range" in which scatter is most predictable.
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Re: $100,000 Holy Grail Roulette System Challenge
you keep publishing what you want, more text is missing, but you only publish what you want.
I have to make it very clear that the biggest scammer in the forum is you and I have proof!
Do you even know that you are cheating at the casinos and you say you use your machines to make screens? do not make me laugh more man.
Do you think that casinos know that you have electronic devices and do nothing? you are laughing at me and everyone, clown!
Take off the mask you have, you have no shame!
THIS MAN WORKS FOR CASINOS, THESE ARE WARNED!
I have to make it very clear that the biggest scammer in the forum is you and I have proof!
Do you even know that you are cheating at the casinos and you say you use your machines to make screens? do not make me laugh more man.
Do you think that casinos know that you have electronic devices and do nothing? you are laughing at me and everyone, clown!
Take off the mask you have, you have no shame!
THIS MAN WORKS FOR CASINOS, THESE ARE WARNED!
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Re: Comparison of Roulette Odds vs Sports Betting Odds
Most players don't have the right mindset for AP - not even for roulette computers, and they are as easy as it gets. Most players don't understand the concept of edge. They want and expect a system that can be instantly applied, requires no work, never loses, and makes millions. Anything less than that is no good to them.
You can do well even with a 1% edge. But there are other factors like avoiding detection, frequency of spins etc that generally make 1% not worth the time. We'd only bother with such a small edge if it was stable, and on something like an auto wheel so we could sit there for hours without any problems.
You can do well even with a 1% edge. But there are other factors like avoiding detection, frequency of spins etc that generally make 1% not worth the time. We'd only bother with such a small edge if it was stable, and on something like an auto wheel so we could sit there for hours without any problems.
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Re: $100,000 Holy Grail Roulette System Challenge
So you have nothing to say about you lying about not trying to sell your system, then trying to secretly sell to members via PM? Nothing to say about your fake IDs and lies about who you are?
Go on, give us your proof.
We follow the laws regarding what is considered "cheating". We don't "cheat". We play where "cheating" is "tampering" with game outcomes. We don't do that.
Most casinos have absolutely no idea. That's why we continue to win. And when casinos suspect a player is using a computer, they close bets earlier. I've explained it many times - we avoid detection and win before casinos notice. This is done for ANY method that beats casinos - with or without electronics.
I'm cheating casinos, but I work for them?
Passion, give it your best shot. Show everyone your proof that my computers are a scam, and that I work for casinos.
While you're at it, prove to everyone you didnt tell everyone you werent selling anything, and didn't contact members via PM trying to sell your system. And prove to everyone you didn't lie about who you are when you came here with your new username. I mean not even the dumbest scammers would spell their old username backwards - at least i wouldnt have thought.
I understand you're angry about your scam being stopped. But you're sinking deeper and making a bigger fool of yourself.
I have to make it very clear that the biggest scammer in the forum is you and I have proof!
Go on, give us your proof.
Do you even know that you are cheating at the casinos and you say you use your machines to make screens?
We follow the laws regarding what is considered "cheating". We don't "cheat". We play where "cheating" is "tampering" with game outcomes. We don't do that.
Do you think that casinos know that you have electronic devices and do nothing?
Most casinos have absolutely no idea. That's why we continue to win. And when casinos suspect a player is using a computer, they close bets earlier. I've explained it many times - we avoid detection and win before casinos notice. This is done for ANY method that beats casinos - with or without electronics.
THIS MAN WORKS FOR CASINOS, THESE ARE WARNED!
I'm cheating casinos, but I work for them?
Passion, give it your best shot. Show everyone your proof that my computers are a scam, and that I work for casinos.
While you're at it, prove to everyone you didnt tell everyone you werent selling anything, and didn't contact members via PM trying to sell your system. And prove to everyone you didn't lie about who you are when you came here with your new username. I mean not even the dumbest scammers would spell their old username backwards - at least i wouldnt have thought.
I understand you're angry about your scam being stopped. But you're sinking deeper and making a bigger fool of yourself.
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Re: $100,000 Holy Grail Roulette System Challenge
And Passion, over the years there have been 2 main types of people who attack me:
1. Other people selling systems or running forums ("competitors")
2. People that were banned from my forums (for doing things like trying to scam members via PM)
You are both.
If you are a crusade to discredit me, you can make up and twist crap however you want. Some people believe anything they read. But the serious players understand the motives of people like you, so they do proper research. This means seeing a demo, visiting me in person, getting a trial etc. In which case your bullshit counts for nothing.
I think you need to take a hard look at yourself, what you tried to do via PM, and that nobody believed or liked you. I'm just the admin, doing what's required to prevent scammers from spamming members via PM. You are the problem, not me and not other members. But even having said that, it wont change your crusade. People with problems tend to blame others for failures.
1. Other people selling systems or running forums ("competitors")
2. People that were banned from my forums (for doing things like trying to scam members via PM)
You are both.
If you are a crusade to discredit me, you can make up and twist crap however you want. Some people believe anything they read. But the serious players understand the motives of people like you, so they do proper research. This means seeing a demo, visiting me in person, getting a trial etc. In which case your bullshit counts for nothing.
I think you need to take a hard look at yourself, what you tried to do via PM, and that nobody believed or liked you. I'm just the admin, doing what's required to prevent scammers from spamming members via PM. You are the problem, not me and not other members. But even having said that, it wont change your crusade. People with problems tend to blame others for failures.
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Re: 37 back to basics
all the numbers unhits repeats uniques are subject to the law of the third each cycle..on average check your tracker...if your going that way...it happens constantly..after all its a new cycle..shifting like the sands of the desert..overlapping numbers from previous cycle..Careful with that concept LAw of third .in Steve’s experience its bull crap
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Re: 37 back to basics
dont have to be carefull..simply check ayks v8 tracker
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Re: 37 back to basics
dont have to be carefull..simply check ayks v8 trackerhave no clue what that is
If it doesn’t give you an accurate prediction it doesn’t work.
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Re: 37 back to basics
have no clue what that is
If it doesn’t give you an accurate prediction it doesn’t work.
It’s not a system..it shows u the spins out the cycles of 37 spins or whatever u config it to..and deadly accurate ..and a lot of features I asked for and my own personal tracker on the right ..u will see that when u input numbers in
http://ayk.bplaced.net/tracker8/
And also the spin count when the number hit
Have fun
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