And to put your mind at ease it’s probably now the best tracker in the world along side the streams tracker
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Re: 37 back to basics
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Re: 37 back to basics
Careful no system if it does not predict it accurately physically.Thats what you can expect on this forum .
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Re: Physics & Theory
I'm going to have to read this a few times to get my head round it and maybe try working out with a pencil and paper.
But I do know for a steady dealer the ball release speed is about constant and around time period 0.5 secs. I guess you are matching the rotor speed to this, so in effect you are measuring the rotor speed or at least seeing if the rotor speed is within range.
Put it this way, ball speed is difficult to measure accurately early in the spin. For me anyway. The difference between say 0.45s and 0.5s is 0.05s which is very small, so would need several revolutions at least to measure. Whereas you can pick a difference in wheel period say 3.0 or 3.2 or 3.5 more easily.
Only thing I would say is on a long scatter wheel you will probably need a drop zone as well to get an edge. The justification I'd put forward is my experiment on dealers sig in this forum where I did 1000 spins on a wheel with a dropzone to constrain fall off. I also used same wheel speed, same ball speed (as good as I could manage) and same release point. Even with all that there was just a discernable area (a good 1/3 area too), which is a nice zone for betting.
But I am sure If the wheel were more levelled, that zone would be flattened. It's an experiment I should repeat with a wheel as level as I can make it.
But I do know for a steady dealer the ball release speed is about constant and around time period 0.5 secs. I guess you are matching the rotor speed to this, so in effect you are measuring the rotor speed or at least seeing if the rotor speed is within range.
Put it this way, ball speed is difficult to measure accurately early in the spin. For me anyway. The difference between say 0.45s and 0.5s is 0.05s which is very small, so would need several revolutions at least to measure. Whereas you can pick a difference in wheel period say 3.0 or 3.2 or 3.5 more easily.
Only thing I would say is on a long scatter wheel you will probably need a drop zone as well to get an edge. The justification I'd put forward is my experiment on dealers sig in this forum where I did 1000 spins on a wheel with a dropzone to constrain fall off. I also used same wheel speed, same ball speed (as good as I could manage) and same release point. Even with all that there was just a discernable area (a good 1/3 area too), which is a nice zone for betting.
But I am sure If the wheel were more levelled, that zone would be flattened. It's an experiment I should repeat with a wheel as level as I can make it.
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Re: 37 back to basics
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Re: 37 back to basics
Tried the tracker for 37 spins. It seemed rare enough to have a gap of 4 numbers in a row not hit on the wheel. If it was close to the 37th spin and there was a 4 or 5 number gap, betting those numbers might make profit over time.
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Re: Physics & Theory
Hi
I am now convinced that physics related methods are the only way to have an advantage playing roulette but using scientific methods to track ball and wheel spins is not a practical solution unless you subsribe to one of Steve Roulette Computers. But there is another way using a method first discussed by a well known forum member that can give you the information you are seeking. To be honest it is actually quite simple and intuitive. All you need to do is think what is happening when the dealer is spinning that ball around the wheel. What is the end result of his action? No need to track ball speed, rotor speed, diamond deflections, ball release etc. Just observe what is likely to happen more often than not.
Steve says this method cannot work. Ball has no memory. But we are not interested in the ball. We are interested in the dealer. He has a memory or at least his muscles do. He may also be a smart cookie and use his brain to control his muscles. The method/system I have borrowed for this well known forum member is able to identify when these conditions are in play and I will know which numbers to play and better still how much to bet on each to optimize my payout. The funny thing is he probably does not even know who he is and what power he has created.
Cheers,
Ricky
I am now convinced that physics related methods are the only way to have an advantage playing roulette but using scientific methods to track ball and wheel spins is not a practical solution unless you subsribe to one of Steve Roulette Computers. But there is another way using a method first discussed by a well known forum member that can give you the information you are seeking. To be honest it is actually quite simple and intuitive. All you need to do is think what is happening when the dealer is spinning that ball around the wheel. What is the end result of his action? No need to track ball speed, rotor speed, diamond deflections, ball release etc. Just observe what is likely to happen more often than not.
Steve says this method cannot work. Ball has no memory. But we are not interested in the ball. We are interested in the dealer. He has a memory or at least his muscles do. He may also be a smart cookie and use his brain to control his muscles. The method/system I have borrowed for this well known forum member is able to identify when these conditions are in play and I will know which numbers to play and better still how much to bet on each to optimize my payout. The funny thing is he probably does not even know who he is and what power he has created.
Cheers,
Ricky
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Re: Comparison of Roulette Odds vs Sports Betting Odds
I don't understand the following - on Markeatbeaters home site they say you can expect 268 Euro after 200 placed bets.
And I check tipster Inside (109% ROI) last month to see how many picks he made, around 35 placed bets.
Then I check Daniels (112% ROI) over 60 placed bets last month - many live games ...
Now i have been active for nine days and I am up 220 Euro playing 10 Euro flat betting and 2% of the bankroll.
I assume there will be up and downs, but at the moment we are moving upwards.
Today I won several bets and lost very little, two of them was winning at 4.75 and 5.00 odds.
Cheers
And I check tipster Inside (109% ROI) last month to see how many picks he made, around 35 placed bets.
Then I check Daniels (112% ROI) over 60 placed bets last month - many live games ...
Now i have been active for nine days and I am up 220 Euro playing 10 Euro flat betting and 2% of the bankroll.
I assume there will be up and downs, but at the moment we are moving upwards.
Today I won several bets and lost very little, two of them was winning at 4.75 and 5.00 odds.
Cheers
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Re: 37 back to basics
gaps and neighbours
Are you able to do a stat of gaps left over after 37 spins over a million trials?
If you are, then could I see the stats for 37 spins and another for 41 spins?
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Re: 37 back to basics
Are you able to do a stat of gaps left over after 37 spins over a million trials?
If you are, then could I see the stats for 37 spins and another for 41 spins?
Free, I have this somewhere in my files. I'll look and send it to you.
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Re: 37 back to basics
Is it possible to chart just the last x amount of numbers that came up? I want to watch the continuous gaps between numbers. To see if there is an optimal amount of numbers to track before expecting no gaps of 5 numbers.
So,
did this real quick, have a look. I could create macros and calculate datas for millions of spins if you need, or I could modify this file also if you want more results to be extracted.
Write your wished tracking length or gap width trigger in the blue cells.
Depending on your computer, press F9 or Del on an empty cell to switch numbers (using randbetween function in my file), or insert your number sets in the proper column.
Enjoy, and remember, winners don't wear GAP.
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Re: 37 back to basics
So,
did this real quick, have a look. I could create macros and calculate datas for millions of spins if you need, or I could modify this file also if you want more results to be extracted.
Write your wished tracking length or gap width trigger in the blue cells.
Depending on your computer, press F9 or Del on an empty cell to switch numbers (using randbetween function in my file), or insert your number sets in the proper column.
Enjoy, and remember, winners don't wear GAP.
Awesome thank you.
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Re: 37 back to basics
I ran random 50 a bunch of times and did not see a gap of 4. For $100, you could play a progression from spin 35 to 50. Interesting, I definitely need to test this idea more.
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Re: Betfair Online Roulette
are you serious? if you don,t know this answer you should go back to sports betting
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Re: Betfair Online Roulette
google the odds of dozen and column payouts..and then look..you will see why ..you can only win on the cross reference numbers of dozen and column which is 16 numbers... also look at what payouts are for all locations..before you even start betting...if you never played before this is what you need to do
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Re: Wheel layout
What is vaddis method
Im thinking to wait until 3 have hit side by side then flank them or something else like if one number triples then flank it
Im thinking to wait until 3 have hit side by side then flank them or something else like if one number triples then flank it
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Re: Wheel layout
What is vaddis method
Im thinking to wait until 3 have hit side by side then flank them or something else like if one number triples then flank it
http://www.money-maker-machine.com/forum/general-discussion/wish-i-could-openly-share-roulette-grail/?PHPSESSID=1pr3cfpv29n5hq0uo5iijfics6
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Re: Wheel layout
Its not law of a third?
Replying to this
The law of a third is basic probability. Saying it HAS to happen is as misguided as saying all numbers HAVE to spin... eventually.
I feel like a Martian talking to a peanut
Misguided 😂
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Re: Wheel layout
Why dont you explain it to me, oh wise one.
Please.
Please.
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15 number progression.
So, im looking for a 15 number progression.
Any tips?
Any tips?
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Re: 15 number progression.
1/1/2/3, 2/2/4/6 ?
+1 win -1 loss?
+1 till win then reset?
Im playing dealers signature btw, hitrate is pretty good.
+1 win -1 loss?
+1 till win then reset?
Im playing dealers signature btw, hitrate is pretty good.
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